Following interview with one Tulio
Rodriguez of Jalapa, who had been
captured by the bandits and later
escaped is quoted: (Feb 9th)
Q. Don Tulio, where and when were you
captured by bandits?
A. The twenty-eight day of January at a
place about five miles north of Apalí in
the main road to Jalapa, named LA
Q. What time of day was this?
A. About 4:30 in the evening.
Q. Who was with you?
A. Ramon Matute, from Tastalí, near
Q. When did you first see the bandits?
A. They jumped out of the bushes at the
side of the road and told me to put my
hands in the air.
Q. What did they do then?
A. They tied a rope on my arms and took
my horse, and told me to walk.
Q. How many men were in this group?
A. There were ten men with rifles, all
but the leader, José León Díaz, and he
had a pistol, .38 Special, and he took
mine which he stuck in his belt.
Q. What happened to Ramon Matute?
A. The same thing as me.
Q. What happened then?
A. They took us to a house where there
six more men tied with rope and twelve
more bandits and the leader was Juan
Gregorio Colindres, he was mad at me and
called me a she pig.
Q. Did they molest you any?
Q. Why did he call you that?
A. We had a fight one time in Danlí,
Q. How were these bandits armed and
A. All of them but four had rifles, one
had a T.S.M.G. and Colindres Fenero
[Ferrero?], alias Layo, and José León
Díaz had pistols.
Q. How much ammunition did they have?
A. The man with the T.S.M.G. had a drum
and two clips and Colindres had two
belts but the rest had all their shells
in canvas sacks, and they didn’t look
Q. Did they mention any plans for the
A. No. They told me that as soon as a
certain jefe and ammunition came that
they would free the people of Jalapa
from the clutches of the machos.
Q. Did they take you to their main camp?
A. Yes. That was where Colindres was,
about five miles west of Agua Caliente,
and about four miles from the Honduran
border. [p. 2] The next
morning, 29th, two patrols were seen,
and one entered the camp, but the
bandits hit about two hundred yards from
the camp. The other was east of Agua
Caliente about noon (Jalapa patrol, the
other Jicaro and Apali combined).
Q. Why didn’t they fight us?
A. I don’t know, but they acted with
Q. How did you get loose, did they give
A. No. The third night we were sleeping
in the mountains and my ropes on my arms
got loose, so late at night I slipped
away and one of their dogs followed. His
name is Yankee. (In Jalapa now).
Q. Did they ask you for money?
A. Yes. But I didn’t have any so they
made me sign a paper, saying my
brother-in-law would pay $200.00 in
Q. Did he pay it?
A. I don’t know. I have not seen or
heard from him.
Q. How long did they allow you to pay
A. They told me if I didn’t pay it in
four days that they would get me.
Q. Where and to whom was your
brother-in-law to pay this?
A. I don’t know.
Q. Where did you go when you got away?
A. I went into Honduras for three days
always in the mountains and then I came
back down to La Puerta, Nicaragua. It
took me four days to get there.
Q. Why did it take you so long for this
A. Because I was hungry and weak. I was
afraid to go in houses.
Q. Why did you return to La Puerta?
A. I was lost. I thought I was on the
road to Jalapa.
Q. Did you know your wife was there?
A. No. Not until I got there.
Q. Have you gotten any letters or notes
from the bandits since you got back?
This interview was witnessed by Lts.
Schick, Collins, Wallace and Sgto.
Rodriguez, and questions asked by Lts.
Wallace and Schick and Sgto. Rodriguez.
It is my (Lt. Wallace) firm belief that
his wife paid the two hundred dollars as
she was not in Jalapa for nine days,
supposedly in Ocotal. Also told Lt.
Schick that she (Mariana Rodriguez) was
very poor now. Even though the story
that don Tulio told is quite possible.
Transcribed by Pleet Initiative-funded
Lebanon Valley College
student-researcher Nicholas J. Quadrini.